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what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:56 am
by ddropski
I am at the final stages of finishing my drum set up but I have 1 final hurdle My Hihat

no matter where I put it it cross triggers with something else
when I put it in port 25 it cross triggers my snare and flex 2 (cowbell) if I put it in port 15 it miss triggers my tom 3 ...ect ect..

I have taken the pedal out of the equasion I make all pedal notes 0 and disconnected it and changed the location of the pedal/hihat cymbal relationship different

my cymbal is a roland cy12

if I raise the threshold to the point of no misstriggers ..it looses all the playability ( meaning it will not pick up lesser hits) and it sucks the life out of the hihat..

as you can see from the pictures i hit the Flexi2(cowbell) a few times and it triggers C#3 hihat ... then i hit the snare a few times and it trggers C#3 hihat as well

what can I do ? i have opend it up (cy12) already to see if there was a bad wire or something ,,it all looked right

what causes miss triggering and why is it only the 1 cymbal that does it ... different piezos mabe? will changing then fix it?

any help anyone can offer i will appreciate im desperate .. i have come so far just to loose it at the hihat :(

since i cannot put all 3 (hihat..snare...flex2) pics up in 1 post ill do it in 3


thank you so much

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:00 am
by ddropski
cowbell (flexi 2)

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:03 am
by ddropski
Snare

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:26 am
by ddropski
here is my config file if that helps

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:39 pm
by angr77
IT seems like you have have set your hi hat on single piezo...but you have a cy-12 which have a piezo/switch implementation. So start by setting it to dual on the piezo for head/bow and then switch on the edge/rim.

I also see that the hihat pedal is appointing to input 54 for bow/edge...but your hihat remains on 46/47...

I made some corrections on the most obvious errors in the attached MDS file.. Have a try.

still mis triggering hihat_corr.zip

Angr77

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:38 pm
by ddropski
I must have bumped the single/3way

I have the pedal set like that so I can eliminate the pedal from the mistriggering problem ... it is looking for the pedal at 56 and my hihat is actually in 46 (just for trouble shooting )
once I get the cy12 to trigger properly I can add in the pedal

I changed it to a 3 way it didn't change anything it still mis triggers unless I put the threshold up very high

here is a new pic reflecting the changes
and I changed the config file too same name and same place as original post
is there something physical I can do perhaps(change the piezo... or something?)

added a pic of tom 2 also

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:45 am
by ddropski
here is a pic of tom 2 mistriggering with the hihat

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:04 am
by dmitri
Take the screenshot of the MIDI Log showing mistriggering.

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:56 pm
by ddropski
im confused Dmitri .. all these screen shots are the hihat miss triggering ... can you explain what you need .Ill be happy to supply it also Welcome back .I hope it was a vacation and nothing serious :)

Re: what should i do ? hihat problems

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:26 pm
by dmitri
ddropski wrote:im confused Dmitri .. all these screen shots are the hihat miss triggering ... can you explain what you need

You did it before in viewtopic.php?p=27201#p27201 , just do the same.